Gene commented on Michael Jackson's death on his Facebook page. Here is the message:
Gotten a lot of questions from media and from quite a lot of you Re: Michael Jackson.
I have refused all media requests for interviews. There are enough people in the industry being quoted. Some altruistically, some for media coverage.
Either way...
When I was going out with Diana Ross in the early 80's, I met Michael a few times through her. We spent social time together.
Found him to be gentle, charming...obviously very talented. And that was that.
The Michael of later years is someone I didn't recognize...nor like very much.
When there are children involved...when there are allegations (many) of child molestation...when there are admissions of inviting countless young boys to spend weekends and sometimes Michael's bed with them (Michael's quote), clothed or unclothed...makes no difference...when there are payoffs to the children making the accusations in the $20,000,000 range ($20 Million Dollars!!! -- as reported by Media) ....There's more than doubt in my mind.
This doesn't take into consideration Michael's children...none of whom are biologically his. All three of whom have had a "strange" upbringing. But then, we don't know much, except a "Father" who thought nothing of dangling his young child over the balcony (head covered in a towel), so his fans could get a thrill.
So, what's my comment Re: Michael's passing? I hope he finds peace. I wish his family and friends all the best in these very sad times.
But as regards Media coverage: celebs can always get media coverage.
But what about the children who spent nights with Michael in his bed? (he has admitted on camera he has done it many times, and would continue to do it). They need a voice. And, they should have a chance to have their say. With lie detectors attached. Maybe then, away from rich celebrities, tricky lawyers and LA court systems that can't seem to convict anyone....maybe then, we'll find out the truth about child molestation charges leveled at Michael Jackson from children (that's plural, not singular).
My comment? I recognize and respect his talent, but the rest is very tainted. And I want to hear the truth, once and for all.
36 comments:
Death is sad.
As for the scandals, no doubt many will come forward with something to say. Time will tell. Simmons says what's on his mind, warts and all. While he's privy to the stellar circles, we'll see how his strong opinions compare to those who declare their experiences, in the coming years. It'll be interesting to hear what MJ's child companions have to say when they're adult. Also, Macauley Culkin, La Toyah Jackson, & others. Will be intesting to hear what revelations and claims will be made.
sad,but probably true.Michael's was someone who tugged on the sympathies of everyones conscience.from boyhood onward.but became increasingly bizarre.the bizarritute seem to evolve from the need to stay in touch with remaining in a boyhood state.he catered to the abstract of the white audience.and achieved a presence no other african american could achieve.the ability to romanticise his character,to become the icon he was,became so problematic,he lost so much personal character,in the eyes of the media,he eventually broke down.it seemed his intentions for his fans and audience were genuine.but was slagged beyond repair.as his bizarre lifestyle became untolarable.I would think this is his way of checking out.with integrity still intact.what went on behind closed doors is unknown,but likely not acceptable.and at 50,Michael knew his star was shining at it's brightest.
I think Simmons needs to rethink matters regarding Michael Jackson before opening up a new debate over old molestation charges. His candy coated statement of "repect" for Michael seems thinly layered compared to his strong feeelings about what he thinks Jackson did in private circles even though Jackson was legally aquitted of such charges. Given that the man has just died and can't respond to Mr. Simmon's speculative comments, one has to wonder what the Jackson family and scores of supporters might feel about his reckless and judgmental comments at a most inopportune moment. Bad form Mr. Simmons. Bad form.
Gene, do You really want to hear the truth?
Jordan Chandler tells the truth.
...
” Now for the first time i can’t bear to lie anymore. Michael Jackson didn’t do anything to me, all was my father lies to escape from being poor.”
That's all, man.....
And look at the other guy, how pitiful, shrewd face he has got...He's a grabber.... Should I say, just like You?
Shame on You...
I think that ol' Genie is a little pissed that the God of Thunder can't touch the King of Pop. Kiss may have sold 100 million records in its entire career but to accomplish that in just one album like Michael Jackson? No way. Michael has killed them all if we are looking at career totals. To say such things just a week after Michael Jackson's passing is classless, unnecessary and insensitive. Gene said he would not comment right after MJ's death but it is still right after MJ's death and he can't help himself. MJ had tons of money. Anyone ever ask themselves if these children's parents were behind the accusations? More and more people came forward trying to jump onto the money train before it took off. Seems like too good an opportunity to pass up. Let's not forget the extent people go to for the green stuff!(Right, Genie?) MJ was cleared of all charges, let's not forget that, either. He went through hell. His life was not easy. All of these vultures who hurl accusations and make false statements about him when he is no longer here to defend himself should just shut up. Talk about low. Oh, and doesn't Gene have an album coming out? Looks like he has something else to promote so he has to get his two cents in. He who is without sin may cast the first stone. Gene should look at himself in the mirror before judging others. You are no saint, Gene. You know it. Michael Jackson's death was a horrible loss for the world. And I don't think Gene will be getting that much world wide and ongoing coverage when he leaves the world. That's for sure. You say Michael paid people off to go away. Maybe that was not the right decision for you but it was for him. He had the right to make it and just because you don't agree does not make it wrong. Maybe you should have walked in his shoes before shooting your mouth off.
I speak my mind, just like you Genie.
NOW ALL DOUBT HAS FINALLY BEEN
REMOVED.....GENE SIMMONS IS A
TOTAL ASSHOLE.
Michael Jackson was listed in the 2000 edition of the Guiness Book Of World Records for breaking the world record for the "Most Charities Supported By a Pop Star". Guiness states that Michael Jackson has supported 39 charity organizations either with monetary donations through sponsorships of their projects or by participating in their silent auction.
Michael has contributed more than $500 million U.S dollars to charity. We are the World, written by Michael Jackson and Lionel Ritchie, raised more than $63 million for famine relief.
How about remembering him for all the wonderful things he did and was?
How much have you donated to charity, Mr. Simmons?
Simmons is just an over the hill rock star who cannot committ to marriage, who has had a couple of face lifts himself, has slept with thousands of woman which makes him a man whore, how filthy and gross, has probably done drugs and alcohol in his lifetime, which makes him weak and without any self respect or principles. Dangle the almighty dollar in front of his face and he will do just about anything. His show is pure proof of that. Somebody probably paid him to say such untrue and disgusting things about a man who just passed and who the world worshipped. Gene is self absorbed and self worshipping. Doesn't need any fans in my book. He is his own fan club. There is a world of difference between Gene and Michael. Too bad Gene cannot ever be like Michael Jackson. How sad he is so bitter and mean in his old age. Gene should just get out of our faces and retire gracefully.
how old is this boy now, some people would do anything to get rich
Gene Simmons is proof positive that money cannot buy you class.
FYI, Gene...
The father of the minor involved in the 1993 child molestation case was a dentist who was behind more than $60,000 in child support payments. He also was tape recorded as vowing to destroy Michael Jackson so that he would never sell another record. He was jealous that his son worshipped MJ and not him. The minor described MJ's genitals but he was not correct in his assertion after MJ was examined. This family received about $20 million from Michael Jackson. The child who is an adult now owns a $2.5 million home and the family owns two or three more homes in various parts of the U.S., an elite lifestyle financed by Michael Jackson.
Michael decided to settle out of court because he was urged to do so by Elizabeth Taylor as well as family and his inner circle because of the major toll it was taking on his already frail health and dependancy on prescription drugs. They were afraid a long trial would destroy Michael. Michael took their advice.
In later years, the same dentist who extorted $20 million from Michael Jackson sued him for a further $60 million after a book came out that detailed the alleged relationship between MJ and his son. The courts dismissed it based on lack of evidence. Tells you a lot about the father's character or lack of it and what he had been after all along. Let me tell you if MJ or anyone else sexually abused my minor child you can bet your ass that I would be taking them to court and making them pay by doing jail time. This man did not. He just accepted a pay off and no charges were ever filed. It just tells me that Michael did not lay a hand on his son. This guy was in it for the money from the start. The jury also found Jackson not guilty on all charges in 2005.
Seems odd that these cases were so few if you look at the span of Michael's career. Also odd that they came after he was a major money maker. Also note that all Michael's children friends who were questioned said he never did anything inappropriate to them.
Simmons is one to talk about tainted Michael Jackson is an innocent man he died an innocent man and I'm sick of people judging him as if they know him.
That boys family was looking for some easy cash and what do you know the guy with a kind heart gets taken advantage of his kindness and generosity inviting the less fortunate to never land to be like every other kid and have fun. I tell you those boys who accused Jackson are gonna pay for it them and there parents if not this lifetime the next i guarantee that because Karma is Bish
To all the MJ Haters--of which Gene Simmons obviously is one, no matter how much he says he isn't:
Dear Haters, please first check to see if you have a heart or even a smidgeon of compassion for human suffering. Then read this...
Was Michael Jackson Framed?
http://tinyurl.com/l9ohxe
Then educate yourself about "universal vitiligo."
http://tinyurl.com/ljj4yl
Then listen to his speech at Oxford University.
http://tinyurl.com/njg344
Then stop judging and try really hard to understand…
http://tinyurl.com/ldurh9
Then ponder Michael's body of work and ask yourself, "Have I brought even a small fraction as much joy to the world?
Well, have you?
I wasn't a Michael Jackson fan during the '80's but since his death, I have watched the videos and read about the allegations in more detail. The allegations and the persistence of these type of rumors is disturbing -- I will give Mr. Simmons that. However, if the pictures taken of Mr. Jackson's body had matched the child's description, I think he would have been convicted -- the fact is that they did not match. It would be nice if websites such as the Smoking Gun posted the defense's (Michael's) responses to allegations of child molestation rather than just the child's. People need to be able to read both side and judge for themselves. The biggest question for me is where were Michael's family and friends? why didn't his family establish a conservatorship? I don't think he was crazy -- just too much fame, poor judgement, lack of good business advisors and maybe some emotional issues. Could have been fixed if somebody cared enough about him to risk angrying him or losing his financial support. My 2 cents...Prince is probably taking the best course by not commenting. We should follow suit.
i am also for a lie detactor - couse than will came out that he is inoccent.
Man, do you jag-offs sacrifice goats to Jackson or what?
http://charlesthomsonjournalist.blogspot.com/2010/02/jackson-guitarist-no-truth-to-simmons.html
Gene Simmonds is now a detective is he with proof of Michael molesting children?? How easy it is to write someone is guilty of this, that and the other, without an ounce of proof. And how disgraceful! Other comments on here provide the facts in relation to the false charges and the history and motivation of those making them. It is truly sickening to see what jealousy will do to some who just cannot stand to see someone else infinitely more talented than them succeed in life. Of course there will be some less discerning individuals, persuaded as they have also been by trashy media reports, to find some truth in these attention seeking shots hurled by a clapped-out rocker in an attempt to claw his way back into the lime-light. More intelligent beings will find it most offensive and will be insulted at the suggestion any of this nonsense is true. Please, Gene Simmonds. Stop to provide real evidence for your defammatory allegations. Such defammation of character is truly unwarranted of such a beautiful person and must be retracted. What did he ever do to you?
I've always liked Gene Simmons, and thought he was a nice guy, but this is ridiculous.
Why is he saying things like this, based only on what he has heard through the media?
I really thought he was smarter than all of that. I really did.
Michael Jackson is/was/will always be an INNOCENT man. I don't care what the media say or does. Michael has done NOTHING wrong.
And for Gene to say something such as this, has made me very dissapointed to say that I am a fan of his.
For another celebrity to slag off a fellow celebrity is the most disgusting and terrible thing to do.
If you don't know the whole story, then don't talk, because you can't possibly make an educated opinion if you don't know all of the facts.
Gene, I sincerely hope that you can re-inspire my joy in liking you again.
But so far, I have to say that you are the biggest jerk in the music business right now.
And I'm sadly dissapointed in you.
But then, I guess the voices of the fans whose feelings you have hurt and damaged mean nothing to you, being the big bad money hungry bastard that you are.
I was a Gene Simmons fan until I read his comments. I read all the info on Evan Chandler and his son Jordie. Funny how the creep drugged his son with an illegal drug which is a "suggestion" drug and then came up with the story after Michael turned down his request for 20 million to make a movie. His own lawyer's assistant said that it was all a hoax. As for the second group of liars, they were con artists (proven) and even the woman's husband said that she wrote scripts for her children and that was also proven.
Now - GO TO HELL WHERE YOU BELONG GENE. I ALSO HEARD THAT YOU MOLESTED UNDERAGED GIRLS ON THE ROAD BEFORE YOU MET SHANNON. RAPIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rapaz, sou do Brasil e da onde vc tirou isso do Michael Jackson ter saído com crianças daqui? Vc tá achando que aqui é terra de ninguém?! É um absurdo, Michael Jackson nunca levou nenhuma criança do brasil seu estúpido, ou vc acha que a mídia daqui não ia cair em cima. Ou pensa que os hotéis não existem cameras. Kurt Cobain veio uma vez pro Brasil e a mídia descobriu que ele parou no transito com courtney love e ficaram passando a mão nos peitos de uma transex que estava fazendo ponto na rua. Fora a parte do Kurt ter oferecido extasie para uma fã daqui do Brasil. Você não tem provas nenhuma, vai voltar pro seu reality show âs moscas, sem audiência, ou vai pro inferno que é o seu lugar. Agora para de ficar falando mentirar de quem já morreu.
Um abraço a todos
Rapaz, sou do Brasil e da onde vc tirou isso do Michael Jackson ter saído com crianças daqui? Vc tá achando que aqui é terra de ninguém?! É um absurdo, Michael Jackson nunca levou nenhuma criança do brasil seu estúpido, ou vc acha que a mídia daqui não ia cair em cima. Ou pensa que os hotéis não existem cameras. Kurt Cobain veio uma vez pro Brasil e a mídia descobriu que ele parou no transito com courtney love e ficaram passando a mão nos peitos de uma transex que estava fazendo ponto na rua. Fora a parte do Kurt ter oferecido extasie para uma fã daqui do Brasil. Você não tem provas nenhuma, vai voltar pro seu reality show âs moscas, sem audiência, ou vai pro inferno que é o seu lugar. Agora para de ficar falando mentirar de quem já morreu.
Um abraço a todos
Gene Simmons, I'm from Brazil and where you got that Michael Jackson has left the kids here? You're thinking that here is no man's land?! It is absurd, Michael Jackson never took any child of Brazil stupid, or do you think the media here would not fall over. Or think that the hotels here do not have camcorders? Kurt Cobain once came to Brazil and the media discovered that he stopped in traffic with courtney love and were stroking the breasts of a transex point I was doing on the street. Off part of Kurt entranced to have offered a fan from Brazil. Now is the first time ever that someone foolish enough to say Michael's here in Brazil.
You have no evidence, going back to your reality show flies, without a hearing, or go to hell that is your place. Now to get talking to liar who has already died.
You're up to their 30 seconds of fame ....
Tell me something true that you have placed a bomb inside a pig? I've heard many people talking about it here, so yes I've heard here.
Take care everyone, and do not believe this liar ...
Hi Gene, My name is ROSE VENUS GREIF, I am 50 year old Jewish gal and yes related to Leslie, (down the line) my father was Dr. Lawerence Bernard Greif. I have always had the upmost respect for you and you family, your were pretty much prefect, ALMOST, I thought nothing would or could ever make me stopped watching you, BUT NEVER AGAIN, not that YOU care but when it comes to Michael...before you to speak of something you know nothing of, that makes you ignorant, SLOW ON THE UPTAKE, dim and brainless as far as I am concerned! NEVER DID I THINK YOU, WOULD JUDGE him!? The fact is I knew Michael and I have to say, YOU REALLY SHOULD DO YOU HOMEWORK GENE. “Our whole planet needs to stop for an entire day to acknowledge, Michael Joseph Jackson's UNBELIEVABLE, GOD LIKE GREATNESS. The most loving, caring humanitarian that ever lived and one of the best human beings to ever hit this earth. There could not & will not ever be another!!!! His heart and soul were pure. He was King on Earth and now God's Angel in Heaven!!!! Of course this could never happen to you, you not as big as he was, don’t have the money he had that he had that people wanted! I totally understand him, his isolation, his manly ways, his child like ways, his personalities, there was NOTHING weird about him and not a thing I didn't love about him. HE WILL GET TO HEVEN FAR BEFORE YOU AND I WILL!!! Good Bye Gene, Rose
i think all you pepole are crazy gene was simply saying he doesnt like child molestation can you blame him thats whats wrong with america today we forget to easliy something else happens we forget about the other thing MJ was a pedophille like it or not and thats all ive gotta say think im mean or an asshole or whatever the hell makes you pepole happy but think about if it was your child and they were molested the molestor dies R U sorry form them?????????????? didnt think so so genes an asshole ummm?????not really just a normal person well mabey not normal butt ..........anyway
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You are telling blatant lies.Ever read Jennifer Battens rebuttal to the lie anbout Brazilian boys?
How many std´s have you had?
Think your promiscuous lifestyle is something to admire.Just faded, getting old and envious.
Anonymous
Is that pic. on the other post you or your mother?No insult intended to your mother,she must be of age by now. It happens to all of us.
Just wonder how come she got a son like you. Sorry.
Ouw is he serious?? Michael NEVER molested ANY child!! Jordan Chandlers dad just wanted his son to say that cause they were poor and needed MONEY (money lie for it, spy for it, kill for it, die for it) !
GENE SIMMONS IS AN ASSHOLE!!
lies after lies about mj when it going to stop????? Mr. Simmons he is jealous of Micheal Jackson . not was a child molestation ........he was the grates entertainer of all time , how come he says all of that about hes kids and Micheal as well? that is the biggest lie i have ever heard in my life i have always believe Micheal and his innocent and i will continue ... so all that people say [im Micheal fan] just stop it ...u r not Micheal fan OK ...and goo some other super star u can say lies about him but not Micheal and his kids ok ....and of course .those kids who spend times with Micheal im sure they will tell lies after lies and they will paid of their lies .and for this guy Mr. Simmons im sure the Jackson family they will never let him pay tribute to Micheal and if Micheal kids knows that they will get upset and mad of all this .just please the jackson family don't let him be in the tribute of honer Micheal he is very bad guy, just for Micheal dont do it .
Micheal Jackson NEVER molested any child in this world NEVER been a pedophil and NEVER been a gay ..... and hey MR. SIMMONS u r a fake and not a real and Micheal he is talented than uuuuuuuu and uuuu just singer but Micheal he is million times than uuuuuu soooooo and for his kids they r hes kids and that is for sure he loved his kids and they loved him more and that call a real family... how r u saying that to the the king of pop orrrrrr i think u r a jealous man be cause no one ever called u a king or any nick name form the fans ...... ohhh am sorry .. may be your nick name is a fake man hahahah ..........get the hell over it...i don't know uuu and never know uuu never heard about ucuz u r sock
Michael Jackson wanted to claim back his stolen childhood by being around young kids.Period.I do not believe he was a child molester.Look at all his friends. He was well loved. My heart goes out to a man largely misunderstood and greatly envied. To all who slander the King of Pop...may the fleas of 100000 camels infest your armpits..^L^)_\m/
GENE FRICKEN RULES
well Gene clearly stated the facts present. nothing he said was based on opinion.just what has been alleged by the media or court system.anyway,Micheal was very eccentric.the center of a papparazzi circus.as fans expect stars to be heros or role models,well it never works like that.and anything to jade someones image will come swiftly as well.Micheal danced around all the media speculations,somewhat retreating,until the coast was clear.but it never really cleared(sounds reminiscent of one Elvis).so who cares,no kids were ever physically abused or the such.just under the pressure of their eccentric host,Micheal.cheers to Gene,the Micheal mystery is still not concluded.
I will forever love Kiss music and Gene Simmons sharing their life on tv. But as far as MJ and if or did not molest children.the truth will be known Im sure if he did it is very hot where he Is at now for his sake I hope he did not.The great man upstairs knows and MJ can not pay his way out if he did harm children I really hope he did not And Gene Simmons you have your right to say what you want.
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